Comments on: I Almost Signed Up an EstDomains Reseller Account http://hostingfu.com/article/i-almost-signed-estdomains-reseller-account Web Hosting Blog by a Software Developer Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:17:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Good Move http://hostingfu.com/article/i-almost-signed-estdomains-reseller-account/comment-page-1#comment-1364 Good Move Thu, 31 Dec 2009 05:51:47 +0000 http://hostingfu.com/?p=114#comment-1364 Greta move. These Russians and Serbs have absolutely no morals at all, they will do anything Greta move. These Russians and Serbs have absolutely no morals at all, they will do anything

]]> By: web hosting http://hostingfu.com/article/i-almost-signed-estdomains-reseller-account/comment-page-#comment-662 web hosting Sat, 05 Sep 2009 13:44:06 +0000 http://hostingfu.com/?p=114#comment-662 <p>I became concerned when I came across a Russia-based money laundering wire-transfer scheme spamming from Careerbuilder.com listings and when I e-mailed the company about the suspected abuse, they seemed non chelant about the issue. I don’t know what’s going on here, but if these folks are in fact operating an illegal enterprise in the state of Delaware, it won’t be long before the state’s AG catches on.thanx for</p> I became concerned when I came across a Russia-based money laundering wire-transfer scheme spamming from Careerbuilder.com listings and when I e-mailed the company about the suspected abuse, they seemed non chelant about the issue. I don’t know what’s going on here, but if these folks are in fact operating an illegal enterprise in the state of Delaware, it won’t be long before the state’s AG catches on.thanx for

]]> By: FFFUUU http://hostingfu.com/article/i-almost-signed-estdomains-reseller-account/comment-page-1#comment-665 FFFUUU Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:17:38 +0000 http://hostingfu.com/?p=114#comment-665 <p>Whell I'm really sorry they're gone now, even with the bad reputation, they never did me wrong. They had $2 .org's and I bought a couple of hundreds. No scams, just plain cheap. Were it not for estdomains, I would never of bought my new house.</p> <p>Have a nice day.</p> Whell I’m really sorry they’re gone now, even with the bad reputation, they never did me wrong. They had $2 .org’s and I bought a couple of hundreds. No scams, just plain cheap. Were it not for estdomains, I would never of bought my new house.

Have a nice day.

]]> By: Luca Sambucci http://hostingfu.com/article/i-almost-signed-estdomains-reseller-account/comment-page-1#comment-664 Luca Sambucci Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:34:34 +0000 http://hostingfu.com/?p=114#comment-664 <p>In the light of recents events, you certainly did right: yesterday EstDomains has been de-accredited from ICANN:</p> <p><a href="http://www.icann.org/correspondence/burnette-to-tsastsin-28oct08-en.pdf">http://www.icann.org/correspondence/burnette-to-tsastsin-28oct08-en.pdf</a> - in English <a href="http://rbnexploit.blogspot.com/2008/10/rbn-farewell-to-estdomains.html">http://rbnexploit.blogspot.com/2008/10/rbn-farewell-to-estdomains.html</a> - in English <a href="http://www.sicurezzainformatica.it/2008/10/estdomains-de-accreditato-da-icann.html">http://www.sicurezzainformatica.it/2008/10/estdomains-de-accreditato-da-icann.html</a> - in Italian</p> In the light of recents events, you certainly did right: yesterday EstDomains has been de-accredited from ICANN:

http://www.icann.org/correspondence/burnette-to-tsastsin-28oct08-en.pdf – in English
http://rbnexploit.blogspot.com/2008/10/rbn-farewell-to-estdomains.html – in English
http://www.sicurezzainformatica.it/2008/10/estdomains-de-accreditato-da-icann.html – in Italian

]]> By: AlphaCentauri http://hostingfu.com/article/i-almost-signed-estdomains-reseller-account/comment-page-1#comment-663 AlphaCentauri Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:05:50 +0000 http://hostingfu.com/?p=114#comment-663 <p>The letter from ESTDomains you quote above is an autoreply. It doesn't mean anyone actually looked at your request yet. </p> <p>If you are persistent and keep emailing back and forth insisting they act, generally you will get someone to respond, even if it doesn't fall in the "email spam, child pornography or inaccurate whois" categories. But they will do only exactly as much as you ask, so don't assume they will take care of any other obvious related problems. You need to follow through yourself.</p> <p>As far as ICANN accreditation, ICANN only expects action for inaccurate whois (and they are a bit fuzzy about what <em>kind</em> of action fulfills their agreement). Registrars that suspend for spam or child porn -- without going through procedures to prove the whois info is inaccurate -- are doing so based on their own terms of service or their own national laws, not ICANN's. </p> The letter from ESTDomains you quote above is an autoreply. It doesn’t mean anyone actually looked at your request yet.

If you are persistent and keep emailing back and forth insisting they act, generally you will get someone to respond, even if it doesn’t fall in the “email spam, child pornography or inaccurate whois” categories. But they will do only exactly as much as you ask, so don’t assume they will take care of any other obvious related problems. You need to follow through yourself.

As far as ICANN accreditation, ICANN only expects action for inaccurate whois (and they are a bit fuzzy about what kind of action fulfills their agreement). Registrars that suspend for spam or child porn — without going through procedures to prove the whois info is inaccurate — are doing so based on their own terms of service or their own national laws, not ICANN’s.

]]> By: estMate http://hostingfu.com/article/i-almost-signed-estdomains-reseller-account/comment-page-1#comment-661 estMate Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:00:33 +0000 http://hostingfu.com/?p=114#comment-661 <p>Hi, the question is that if you filled in the support ticket and asked our opinion on this. You know, cheap domains attract different kind of people, some of them could be involved in some shady activities, but it doesn't mean that we support that in any way. Have you ever reported anything to us? In case you did you should have noticed that we suspend and remove everything, connected to spam, fraud etc, in the shortest possible time. Our support team does a great job in fighting with the cyber-criminals, so kindly note this before making any decisions and writing any articles regarding our services.</p> Hi, the question is that if you filled in the support ticket and asked our
opinion on this.
You know, cheap domains attract different kind of people, some of them could
be involved in some shady activities, but it doesn’t mean that we support
that in any way. Have you ever reported anything to us? In case you did you
should have noticed that we suspend and remove everything, connected to
spam, fraud etc, in the shortest possible time. Our support team does a
great job in fighting with the cyber-criminals, so kindly note this before
making any decisions and writing any articles regarding our services.

]]> By: Anonymous http://hostingfu.com/article/i-almost-signed-estdomains-reseller-account/comment-page-1#comment-660 Anonymous Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:36:06 +0000 http://hostingfu.com/?p=114#comment-660 <p>I don't know, this page seems to be full of posts by either disgruntled customers or those that may have their own domain registration business. I have a estDomains account only because I bought a domain that was registered there. I later transfered it out to one of my main domain accounts, but not because of any problems. I just got an email from them and I did not realize their prices were so low. Well NO WONDER they attract spammers... DUH!</p> <p>That does not mean they are spammers or spam-friendly. In the post above they clearly state that you can contact them about SPAM and a few other issues, but to expect them to take responsibility for everything that happens at the hosting level is unrealistice, since they cannot access all the hosting files and logs to verify complaints.</p> <p>I've filed full documented spam reports with Domainsite, Godaddy, Moniker, Tucows, and Network solutions. Only Domainsite.com has every taken action against a spammer that I am aware of. I think it's great the Estdomains at least SAYS they will respond to spam complaints.</p> <p>And I really have no connection to Estdamains other than what I said. I have about 8 registrar accounts and a resellerclub.com account. Estdomains' prices are cheaper that what I pay currently at resellerclub! And estdomains has their own reseller program that I just found and will think about. First I need to see if some of the other things mentioned here are true, like the blacklisting of domains registered via estdomains.</p> <p>I think there may be some valid issues here, but I don' t think most of them are the fault or responsibilty of estdomains. And I really wonder how much is due to estdomains low prices threatening the business of others that sell domains...?</p> I don’t know, this page seems to be full of posts by either disgruntled customers or those that may have their own domain registration business. I have a estDomains account only because I bought a domain that was registered there. I later transfered it out to one of my main domain accounts, but not because of any problems. I just got an email from them and I did not realize their prices were so low. Well NO WONDER they attract spammers… DUH!

That does not mean they are spammers or spam-friendly. In the post above they clearly state that you can contact them about SPAM and a few other issues, but to expect them to take responsibility for everything that happens at the hosting level is unrealistice, since they cannot access all the hosting files and logs to verify complaints.

I’ve filed full documented spam reports with Domainsite, Godaddy, Moniker, Tucows, and Network solutions. Only Domainsite.com has every taken action against a spammer that I am aware of. I think it’s great the Estdomains at least SAYS they will respond to spam complaints.

And I really have no connection to Estdamains other than what I said. I have about 8 registrar accounts and a resellerclub.com account. Estdomains’ prices are cheaper that what I pay currently at resellerclub! And estdomains has their own reseller program that I just found and will think about. First I need to see if some of the other things mentioned here are true, like the blacklisting of domains registered via estdomains.

I think there may be some valid issues here, but I don’ t think most of them are the fault or responsibilty of estdomains. And I really wonder how much is due to estdomains low prices threatening the business of others that sell domains…?

]]> By: Anonymous http://hostingfu.com/article/i-almost-signed-estdomains-reseller-account/comment-page-1#comment-659 Anonymous Thu, 26 Jun 2008 16:12:48 +0000 http://hostingfu.com/?p=114#comment-659 <p>I just reported a SPIM Spammers to estdomains with plenty of backup docs to support my claim that they domain is being used to spam... Here was Estdomains reply which shows that pro-spam they are. Also they have no anti-spam AUP.</p> <hr /> <p>Hello,</p> <p>Kindly note that Estdomains is the Domain Registrar, not the hosting company, thus, according to the ICANN rules, we are dealing only with the domains, which are involved in Email Spam, child pornography distribution, or display Inaccurate Whois Information. We ask you not to send us any letters regarding the domains registered with us, which are involved in any other type of activity. The responsibility for such domains is on their hosting company, thus, you should better write them. You can find this information using different web-services, we recommend you to use http://www.whois.sc/, it gives you all information about hosting company when you search for a domain and after that click on IP address at the right of the page.</p> <p>Regards, Abuse Team</p> <hr /> I just reported a SPIM Spammers to estdomains with plenty of backup docs to support my claim that they domain is being used to spam… Here was Estdomains reply which shows that pro-spam they are. Also they have no anti-spam AUP.

Hello,

Kindly note that Estdomains
is the Domain Registrar, not the hosting company, thus, according to the
ICANN rules, we are dealing only with the domains, which are involved in
Email Spam, child pornography distribution, or display Inaccurate Whois
Information. We ask you not to send us any letters regarding the domains
registered with us, which are involved in any other type of activity. The
responsibility for such domains is on their hosting company, thus, you
should better write them. You can find this information using different
web-services, we recommend you to use http://www.whois.sc/, it gives you all
information about hosting company when you search for a domain and after
that click on IP address at the right of the page.

Regards,
Abuse Team

]]> By: The Customer is Always Right http://hostingfu.com/article/i-almost-signed-estdomains-reseller-account/comment-page-1#comment-658 The Customer is Always Right Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:59:21 +0000 http://hostingfu.com/?p=114#comment-658 <p>Maybe they are run by aliens and are planning to destroy the world with domain names.</p> Maybe they are run by aliens and are planning to destroy the world with domain names.

]]> By: Anonymous http://hostingfu.com/article/i-almost-signed-estdomains-reseller-account/comment-page-#comment-650 Anonymous Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:50:36 +0000 http://hostingfu.com/?p=114#comment-650 <p>liar you probably work for them don't you. If I, or the legit company that created the "real" AntiSpy Storm find you, we are going to sue you. You know who I am.</p> liar you probably work for them don’t you. If I, or the legit company that created the “real” AntiSpy Storm find you, we are going to sue you. You know who I am.

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